On the Constitution, Collective Responsibility and Royal Vetoes

There have been a few rumblings today about how decisions are made and power exercised in Government.

The Breaking news is that the Government has decided to set aside Collective Cabinet Responsibility over Boundary reforms, essentially putting the bungled reforms on life support for at least this Parliament, if not fatally wounding Tory aspirations of winning 20 seats by default.

There has been some hyperbole from the media, Not least from Gudio  who challenges that it is “hard to argue against the claim that our – albeit un-codified – constitutional commitment to collective responsibility is being severely eroded under the Coalition” Following up with “What would Erskine May say…”

Well I’ve just consulted Erskine May, the book, not the dead guy, and his life’s work doesn’t even mention Cabinet Collective Responsibility – why would it? It’s a work on Parliamentary Protocol, not Government business, but even his earlier assertion, that Collective Responsibility is being eroded – or is even a constitutional commitment – is bogus in the extreme.

For the first part, Collective Cabinet Responsibility is not a part of the Constitution. It’s not even in Statue; it’s a convention which has developed over time to ensure that Government decisions are unified in the face of Parliament and the Monarch to maximise the Governments chances to pass the laws it wants and little more.

And let’s leave aside the Constitutional Convention that no Government or Parliament can be bound by a predecessor law or convention. Even Thatcher, when asked about it said “I certainly think that the doctrine should apply, except in cases where I announce that it does not’

Cabinet Collective Reasonability is mentioned in the Ministerial Code in the abstract and a process to allow disagreements was set out in the Coalition Agreement. Moreover its importance is muted by Geoffrey Marshall, in his 1989 work Ministerial responsibility regarding how Governments try to get through their legislation and maintain the confidence of the House.

Marshall identifies 3 reasons for the convention, “the confidence principle, the unanimity principle and the the confidentiality principle” – within these however he notes that “the government speak and vote together in Parliament, save in situations where the Prime Minister and Cabinet themselves make an exception such as a free vote or an ‘agreement to differ’ and “unanimity, as a universally applicable situation, is a constitutional fiction, but one which must be maintained, and is said to allow frank ministerial discussion within Cabinet and Government”

Thus a suspension, setting aside or agreement to differ is well within the convention. It was set aside in a Government of all parties in 1932 over Tariff policy, over Wilsons’s referendum on membership of the EEC in 1975 and on the issue of direct elections to the European Assembly in 1977 and its happened every time there has been a free vote, on Abortion, on Hunting with Dogs under Blair and matters as important on matters of conscience as allowing TV Cameras to record Parliamentary Proceedings.

Both the Un-Codified Constitution and the convention of Collective Ministerial Responsibility is there not to set down rigid rules, but to allow for flexibility and expedient government. In most cases this convention allows for the Government to allow for a Government to exert its will in Parliament and maintain ministerial discipline but its there to allow for frank discussion.

Is it really that bad a thing that, where there is need and agreement, that the government acts as one and where there is disagreement, as happens in one party governments as much as in a government of Coalition, an open and honest setting aside occurs? Does it make for better government to ride roughshod over dissent? It doesn’t matter. The Coalitions move today is perfectly constitutional, and more so, the right thing to do to ensure that the big issues are addressed and dealt with.

Much more insidious is the news on the clandestine exercise of the Monarchs Veto as revealed by the Guardian today The Monarch Hasn’t vetoed a bill since 1708, Under Queen Anne and the Convention is that the Queen merely waves as laws go past her. The idea that Elizabeth and Charles have been vetoing legislation in secret against their financial interests should shake any democratic to the bone. Agreeing to disagree really should not.

Equal Marriage: a letter to the Tory Backbenches

Brothers and Sisters Following Andrew Selous’ decision to invoke Jesus’ teachings in the equal marriage consultation debate on Tuesday I decided to contemplate the Holy book for advice on what to do with regards to the rather contemptuous concept of ‘ Equal Marriage’ – here follows my missive.

Nothing short of Damnation is upon us. The Gays are glamming up for fashionable weddings and the Church of England must not be seen to wear such gaudy merriment, especially if the cloth be woven of mingled linen and wool [Leviticus 19:19]

As Brother Bone has mentioned time and again, Marriage is sacred and cannot be re-defined. No state could do so. Not the Romans. Not the Orthodox Church. Not the Catholic Church. Not Henry – Six Wives – Tudor. Not the Marriage Act 1753, or 1836, or 1949 or the 25 Matrimonial Causes Acts which have set out the rights to divorce and re-marry.

No, these institutions, innovations and legislations have never changed the meaning, scope, eligibility or right to marry and my support for them is in no way inconsistent.

Marriage is between a man and a woman. Others cannot lie together as Husband and Wife, for that is detestable in the eyes of the lord. [Leviticus 18:22]  They shall not enter the Kingdom of Heaven [1 Corinthians 6:9-10] or the Charlton Club.

It is a great shame that gay sex isn’t punishable by death as Holy Scripture demands [Leviticus 20:13] but indeed rewarded by our godless, save for Bishops, Parliament. Yet the Con-dem Coalition government seek to further heap upon accursed blasphemy by allowing these gays to marry.

It all went downhill with the Divorce laws. The bible is very clear, no woman or man may divorce once committed [1 Corinthians 7:10] and our Holy Church has maintained the demands of our most sacred book in ensuring that her Bishops are only ever married once [1 Timothy 3:2] – I don’t understand the Catholic insistence that Bishops be unstained by marriage but we, god fearing Englishmen, can thankfully read.

Of course, the Churches decision in February 2011 to allow Bishops to be ordained even if they are divorced is an error soon rectified or else our opposition to Gay Marriage and Female Bishops based on a lack of support in scripture would be totally undermined, heaven forbid.

I saw a very helpful guide from the good people at Anglican Mainstream. It is full of useful information, did you know that ‘unlike the vaginal lining, the rectal lining is unable to withstand penetrative activity without medical damage’?

Not only are Gay men and women unable to consummate a marriage but it‘ll also hurt in the process. I put this unanswerable fact to one of those ghastly Lib Dem press officers who said ‘Bugger me’ – I declined his invitation.

By far the clinching argument, apart from it being ‘legal fiction’ is the argument that the whole notion of ‘equality is a ‘questionable notion’ God never actually said all men are created equal, I believe that was some silly rebel idea by some upstart American terrorists. Equal rights? Tosh.

It is a simple fact that not all men are created equal. Otherwise God wouldn’t pick sides and made us his chosen people! Bring back Slavery! As the New Testament testifies Slaves should obey their masters as if he were Christ himself [Ephesians 6:5-8] that’s what I instruct my butler anyway.

Indeed, some people are inferior. Don’t marry a Canaanine woman, the bible commands (Genesis 28:1) I think they’re from the new world or something, I digress but there is so much in my copy of the bible about that wonderful continent.

Reading detail, however, causes me to warn you fine gentlemen not to have an affair. Apparently it’s against Jesus’ teachings, even if you do get divorced (Mark 10:11) and is punishable by stoning [Deuteronomy 22:21] Sounds painful, and I’m grateful the EUSSR banned that one in their damnable Human Rights Convention.

This is a Christian Country. Only a faithful few actually go to Church, but, on reflection, this is difficult. I don’t know how many of you have actually read the bible but at one point it says that rapists should pay their victims father in silver then marry them, which seems a retrograde step. [Deuteronomy 22:28–29] it also advises that to prevent a mob seeking justice I ought to give them two virgin daughters [Genesis 19:6-8] This doesn’t sit well with me.

I’m confused. Should I love my Neighbour? [Mark 12:31]  What if he is Gay and determined to be as miserably married as I?

I don’t know, this is all too convoluted and these stories from 2000 years ago, though entirely relevant to the modern day, aren’t helping. So, perhaps we should leave it all in God’s hands or allow people to make up their own mind? Marry them all! God will recognise his own.

An Open Letter to Donald Trump

Comb your Fucking Hair

Comb your Fucking Hair

Dear Mr Trump

We have watched your outbursts on twitter and youtube with some amusement

But first things first. You need to comb your hair.

Just because you rather serendipitously managed to acquire and then destroy a pristine stretch of highland coastline to build some two bit golf course against the wishes of the local population does not mean you can delegate the task to the winds blowing from the North Sea

You look like a human brillo pad. Only the Mayor of London got there first. And he’s more intelligent. And likeable.

Because. Mr Trump. If you’re going to attempt to emotionally blackmail the President of the United States into giving you his school reports, so you can snigger at how bad at poetry he was age 14, by dangling 5 million dollars above the heads of those literally trying to keep them above water  in what could be the worst storm to hit the east coast of the continental United States in a century. It might be an idea to look presentable.

Its alright we’ll wait.

Do you look less like a mop now? Good. Let’s continue.

Back to that 5 million dollar question.

You’ve said that the storm is quote ‘good luck for Obama again’ unquote

I fail to see how it is good news for the President. I may be a Brit and emotionally lacking, but I don’t think Obama views the deaths of seventeen of your fellow citizens, 20 billion dollars worth of damage to some of the most important cities on earth and power going out for tens of millions of people and the main hospitals in New York as good luck.

I mean, call me old fashioned, but I don’t think Noah saw the great flood as ‘good news’

The boxing day tsunami wasn’t viewed as a late Christmas present by the people living in the Indian Ocean

The damage inflicted by Hurricane Sandy, the life’s lost and put on hold in Manhattan, New Jersey, and Washington, the carnage wrought from Cuba to Canada is no joke, and its far more important than your sad little game.

Its not good news. It’s a disaster. One which you have the power to assist in relieving.

You have a go at the federal government for spending money to help people who spent last night cold, in the dark and fearful of the rising flood waters.

Yet you have 5 million dollars  in ready money to help these people

And you are withholding it so you can try and find out if Obama was any good in gym class.

Obama’s not perfect. I’m worried about his targeted drone assassinations. I’m annoyed he hasn’t closed Guantanamo and like millions of Americans without Jobs I wish he had more success in getting people back to work.

But there is a fundamental difference between Democrats like the President and wannabe Presidents like you on the Republican side.

Common fucking decency.

Bush laughed off his inadequate handling of Hurricane Katrina.

Mitt Romney criticise’s the President for not doing enough whilst arguing in the Republican debates that he would cut Federal Emergency Management Agency Money, saying: “We cannot afford to do those things”

‘those things’ – like assisting your fellow citizens at a time they have lost everything, at a time their loved ones have been injured and killed.

People like you tell me that America is the greatest country in the world. You may be the richest, but your wealth is lacking when it comes to compassion, when it comes to putting the ‘United’ in the United States.

I can’t tell you how much I despise that you are holding out on money which could help your fellow Americans.

Do the right thing. Call off your pathetic little publicity seeking vendetta. Give your money to the Red Cross.

Then comb your hair and Piss off.

*Many Thanks to @tomwilliamsisme for the help and inspiration

A Referendum on the Lords?

I don’t think the Tories and Labour have thought demands for a Lords referendum through really…

Did you hear about Lord Paul who voted 4 times in the last year and claimed £34,225. Is that money well spent?

What about Lord Hannigfield, who was convicted on expenses theft, didn’t vote in 2011, but managed to claim £10,000 in the process?

Lord Archer was convicted of perjury and perverting the course but still has the right to vote on and introduce legislation.

Lord Truscott was caught offering to amend legislation for money, he still votes on legislation and claimed £44,000 in expenses last year, resigning from Labour and sitting as a cross bencher.

And of course, there is Lord Ashcroft who does not pay tax in the UK, using tax havens to avoid paying his fair share just like Jimmy Carr.

For every ‘expert’ in the House of Lords there’s at least one crook, perhaps a spotlight on this must undemocratic chamber is long over due?

Just a thought….

Miliband Morality and that Carr Crash

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If and when you wish to consider the morality of Jimmy Carr’s tax arrangements there are two things to bear in mind. Tax avoidance is not illegal, but tax avoidance on the scale he was conducting it was massively bastardly.

We’re not talking about an ISA for limited tax free savings, or a tax cut for an industry to help it grow, we’re talking about a man who was paying a 1% effective rate of income tax when people on the minimum wage pay 20%.

Don’t think of it as government theft, think of it as a Childrens Hospital buying Jimmy Carr a new Sports Car or a family in poverty paying for Mr Carrs weekly food shop.

Mr Carrs avoidance is all the more loathsome because of his trade, his jokes poke fun at tax dodging banks, expenses scoffing Politicians and the generally deviant. Its not just the scale of his tax avoidance, its the hypocrisy of making money on the back of mocking the practice.

I’m not one to lecture on Morals, one person’s immorality is another person’s way of life and as long as you do no harm  I don’t have an issue with what you do, which is why I’m inclined to agree with Ed Miliband when he says “I don’t think it is for politicians to lecture people about morality”

Unfortunately Miliband is your typical bandwagon, sound bite politician. Today he has a go at Cameron for raising the issue of morality, Last August he was making a speech accusing Bankers, MPs, Rioting Youth and Newspaper Journalists of being greedy, selfish, and immoral. and concludes that “the values crisis is not confined to a so-called underclass”

Politics isn’t just about shuffling laws about, its about values and defining what’s right and wrong, as I alluded to above, I judge my morals on the basis that you should only constrain a persons liberty, or right to do something where it causes harm to others without them wishing it, and you should not be a hypocrite.

In his ‘National Conversation Speech Mr Miliband lectures at length about right and wrong and morality. He should perhaps examine himself to expand on the notion that a lack of consistency is a vice and picking where and when to lecture on morality is a sin.

No one is perfect, we all get things wrong from time to time, but most of us don’t go about saying one thing one minute and another thing the next.

So no, being out to get as much as you can is not, necessarily illegal, but the values that lead you to that objective are, to an extent, of questionable morality.

Tax avoidance is part and parcel of that. Its the same entitlement culture that leads bankers and Loan Sharks like Wonga to charge extortionate interest rates, MPs to maximise their expenses and Journalists and he Police to have too cozy a relationship.

Are those things illegal? No. Are they right? Probably not. Should politicians change the rules? Absolutely.

On Civil Liberties: Part 2

Now I’m at a computer, here’s a longer post on my thoughts on the governments communications data intercept ‘proposals’

We don’t yet know the full proposals…

… but we do know the proposals are not as leaked, whilst the LD briefing which has been circulated does not outline what the full proposals are it does make clear that the proposals do not amount to new snooping powers but an extension to what communications will be applicable for observation under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA)

This is positive, an extension of access to content, for instance, as the initial reports suggested would be so utterly toxic it would break the Coalition. As it is an extension to what RIPA applies to is less dramatic, even if unsavoury.

This is yet another failure of communication from the government

This has obviously been leaked for one of two reasons, either it was leaked by someone to rile up Lib Dem and Libertarian activists (In which case, congratulations, it worked) or it was leaked on a Sunday to try and limit scrutiny/coverage (In which case you failed, epically)

Either way it is clear this was not expected by the government and the resulting vacuum of comment, followed by rushed briefings suggests the governments been blindsided.

This really isn’t a good thing, first there was confusion, then anger, now angry confusion. Leaking during recess also means that the commetariat are not in Westminster, briefing won’t be effective and the government will have trouble getting people on TV.

A lack of message control is becoming terminal for the coalition….

The coalition should be entrenching and extending Privacy safeguards….

… Not merely keeping them the same. RIPA might have been in place for 12 years but there are major problems with it. Oversight is not exactly substantial and instead of data being accessed in major criminal enquires we’ve had plenty of cases of councils using the law to monitor such heinous crimes as not sorting the recycling properly.

If there was one thing on which the coalition parties were of one voice before the 2010 elections, it was their distain at Labours, at best, casual regard, toward civil liberties and privacy. The coalition should be announcing new safeguards in addition to those already in place.

The law at present allows the home secretary to issue a warrant under the act, but beyond an Interception of Communications Commissioner and the Information Commissioners Office there is no judicial oversight. In the same way as TPIM’s need a court order in a addition to a warrant from the Home Secretary, so too should access to data interception, and especially content.

There is a case for intercepting some communications

Yes, intercepting data to compile evidence and disrupt networks is sometimes necessary and in the public interest, especially in cases of international serious organised crime, terrorism, people trafficking and child abuse and we do need to safeguard, disrupt and monitor such activity but this is at odds with keeping everyone’s communications stored, centralised database or not.

Phone tapping, website monitoring and data interception should be intelligence led, not generalised.

What needs to happen now

The government must provide clarity as soon as possible and instead of moving straight to legislation, should go to the public for a consultation and explain the case.

In any case, Labour went too far in backing state intrusion to the detriment of privacy and civil liberties, the government needs to make clear what it will do to extend safeguards.

Ensuring judicial oversight, limiting access to content and making it clear that only the most serious cases, named and outlined as endangering public safety, serious abuse or risk to individual life,  will be subject to interception, would both be very welcome.

On Civil Liberties

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“We will be strong in defence of freedom. The Government believes that the British state has become too authoritarian, and that over the past decade it has abused and eroded fundamental human freedoms and historic civil liberties. We need to restore the rights of individuals in the face of encroaching state power, in keeping with Britain’s tradition of freedom and fairness.”

“We will implement a full programme of measures to reverse the substantial erosion of civil liberties and roll back state intrusion.”

This is the what the coalition agreement says on Civil Liberties.

The Home Office’s latest gambit on data laws is quite simply doing it wrong.

That really is as simple as it is.

Statement to Follow

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I am announcing today that I am leaving the Liberal Democrats and Joining the Conservative and Unionist Party.

This won’t come as a surprise to many friends, and I hope they remain friends, in the Lib Dems. I have been unhappy with the drift the party has faced in government and the unnecessary watering down of reforms to Health and the higher education system which have prevented real reform through market forces and instead we have seen wishy washy Liberal attempts to ‘regulate’ competition in the NHS and ‘widen access’ in Universities.

The Lib Dems have made absolutely zero impact on government. Measures to take millions out of paying income tax, link pensions to earnings, pump millions into helping poor kids trough the pupil premium, delay renewal of trident, invest £2.4 billion through a green investment bank, Reform the House of Lords, reform party funding, Enact a youth contract to create jobs for young people, record apprenticeships, abolish ID cards, end control orders and child detention and create the greenest government ever are mere fig leaves for the parties presence in coalition.

And the Liberals stand in the way of real action on the deficit. By moderating proper conservative instincts the party has prevented the government from making vital cuts which would render the government obsolete, thus making privatisation of HM government a necessity.

Only the Conservative party offers the strong, leadership required for today’s Britain. Only they are able to take the tough decisions David Cameron is told to take by rich businessmen over dinner.

Let’s face it. Government is overrated, big business knows what is right for the country, the great market force in the sky says so. If the Conservatives had their way we would be seeing truly bold reforms to the health service today. None of this minister being ultimately responsible nonsense, no checks and balances, no ‘state’ hospitals, just good, clean, old fashioned checkbooks.

I have been particularly struck by the media professionalism displayed by the conservatives, who, by and large have presented far fewer ‘growlers’ in the media. I would like to salute Francis Maude for his courage and indefatigability in the face of strikes which some critics call ‘phantom’ but I see as a real, present and immediate threat.

When asked whose side you should be on, a wise Civil Servant once answered ‘the winning side’ that side is Conservative. I follow in the footsteps of that bloke with a blog, and that other blog with an, erm, blog. I just want you to remember that.

And so, dear Liberals I bid thee farewell. Government would be much more Tory without you.

UPDATE

Well yes, it’s not been my most subtle effort ever…… Happy April!

Researchers treated like Patsies in Sun Pasty Shock

MMMMMMM Pasty

MMMMMMM Pasty

Hard-working parliamentary Researchers were left hungry this Lunchtime as the Sun, the political wing of the Murdoch Empire, failed to turn up on time to Westminster having emailed all MPs and Staff they would be giving away free pastys.

They eventually turned up, an hour late.

A spokesperson for @CommonsFoodHell said to Politicalhack.org that they were ‘disappointed’ by the Suns no Show. “There is no Jerk related food being served in Commons cafeterias today and after 24 hours of nonsense politicking over Pasties I had a right urge for them, and here I am, in the glorious sunshine, belly rumbling and facing a salad from the Lords bar.”

The move is the latest betrayal by the Murdoch Press, having betrayed Gordon Brown, then David Cameron, and now every hungry Researcher in Westminster.

Politicalhack.org put the charge of betrayal to the Sun who replied “Your Blogpost is only just a little less ridiculous than this whole Pasty Gate nonsense.”

In an unrelated development a page 3 girl said “I am not being photographed with a pasty”

UPDATE

It appears they managed to talk the page 3 girl around…. what on earth is she doing with that sausage roll?

Number-crunching the NHS vote – the big story is who didn’t turn up

Liam Byrne, both hair, and vote, MIA

So the NHS opposition day went as expected, lots of hyperbole, not much rational debate. A Labour defeat.

What was a little odd, however, was that both the Opposition and Government figures looked a little deflated. With a result of 260 opposition Ayes v 314 Government No’s both sides could and should have had more votes.

My initial reaction was that about a dozen Labour MPs probably didn’t show up but the scale of the government collapse (There are 363 Government MPs) suggested some major Lib Dem rebellion or mass abstention.

Having gone through each individual MP and crunched the numbers for the Amendment vote, however, it seems that something rather odd happened. 13 Labour MPs and 8 Lib Dem MPs appear to have missed the vote altogether, depressing the anti NHS case, whilst 7 Lib Dems voted for the amendment, but there are far more Tory MPs AWOL, 34 in total.

The numbers shift around a bit when you account for Government Ministers. a Massive 17 Conservative and 2 Lib Dem ministers didn’t vote: David Cameron, William Hague and George Osborne are in the States but Anne Milton (Who is parliamentary under-secretary of state for health) is a surprise absentee.

Unless we’re looking at the biggest walk out since humanity first moved out of Africa, however, they can be presumed to have been on government business and excused. But that still leaves some 23 government backbench MPs, 17 Tory, 6 Lib Dem, not voting with the government.

This does pose an interesting question. First – where the hell were the 13 Labour MPs? The most prominent of them was Liam Byrne, shadow Spokesperson for Work and Pensions.

Liam is, apparently, the most unpopular shadow cabinet member for two months running  and missing his parties key health bill vote is hardly going to endear him to Labour grass roots. Labours Ann Begg MP (who I’ve not included) missed the vote because she took a fall, was hospitalised and is recovering at home, Liam’s excuse better be as good.

The second of course is; where the hell were the Tories? Perhaps the 17 backbench Tories and 14 Ministers in the country were having a good supper and Port? It is possible they were paired with other MPs, but, of course its also feasible that some of their number are not happy with the health bill and decided to sit on their hands.

With 254 whipped Labour MPs (Whilst 258 were elected one has resigned, two have had the whip removed and 1 is ill) and 7 Lib Dem rebels those 13 absentee Labour MPs were masked by minority parties. 5 DUP, 5 SNP and 1 each SDLP, Alliance and Green voted for the amendment, whilst  2 SDLP, 3 Plaid, 1 SNP 3 DUP and one Independent didn’t vote.

What that means is, had the 13 absentee Labour and 10 Minority MPs bothered to vote the opposition would have hit 283 leaving a deficit of only 31.

There were, for those keeping up, 23 government backbench abstentions. Not enough to win, but enough to make it squeaky bum time.

I’ve been saying ever since Eoin Clarke, by some miracle, got the baying, yet, wonderful, Great British Public at large to hammer the inboxs of Lib Dem MPs, that his campaign was misguided and doomed to failure.

By flooding inboxes it does more to piss off Lib Dem MPs than persuade them. By ignoring the Tories there is no pressure on the Conservative Secretary of State from his own party. By ignoring minority parties (and Labour absentees he’s  ensured a majority against the bill in the Commons is hard, if not impossible to reach.

I really hate a badly run campaign and people being misled into thinking they’ve made a difference, when what they’ve signed up to is so incompetent Newt Gingrich could do a better Job, makes my blood boil.

Therefore, I’m going to leave the list of 46 backbench MPs who didn’t turn up to yesterday’s vote lying around at the end of this blog post. I’m going to colour code it to make it easy to read. I’m going to let you decide what you want to do with it and point out that if they had all rebelled yesterday’s vote would have been 306 Ayes and 314 Noes. Suffice to say I expect nothing will happen…. Ce’st la vie.

*Edit – have removed Annette Brooke as I’m told she is is in hospital with a broken hip and wrist – get well soon.

Baron, John

Conservative Party

Clappison, James

Conservative Party

Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey

Conservative Party

Davies, Philip

Conservative Party

Fuller, Richard

Conservative Party

Garnier, Mark

Conservative Party

Harrington, Richard

Conservative Party

Haselhurst, Sir Alan

Conservative Party

Holloway, Adam

Conservative Party

Latham, Pauline

Conservative Party

Lefroy, Jeremy

Conservative Party

McCartney, Jason

Conservative Party

Mercer, Patrick

Conservative Party

Reevell, Simon

Conservative Party

Robertson, Laurence

Conservative Party

Tyrie, Andrew

Conservative Party

Walter, Robert

Conservative Party

Donaldson, Jeffrey

Democratic Unionist Party (DUP)

Paisley Jr, Ian

Democratic Unionist Party (DUP)

Wilson, Sammy

Democratic Unionist Party (DUP)

Hermon, Lady Sylvia

Independent

Bayley, Hugh

Labour Party

Beckett, Margaret

Labour Party

Benton, Joe

Labour Party

Byrne, Liam

Labour Party

Coffey, Ann

Labour Party

Dobson, Frank

Labour Party

Jackson, Glenda

Labour Party

Lucas, Ian

Labour Party

McCann, Michael

Labour Party

Wicks, Malcolm

Labour Party

Woodward, Shaun

Labour Party

Gapes, Mike

Labour/Co-operative Party

Greatrex, Tom

Labour/Co-operative Party

Bruce, Malcolm

Liberal Democrats

Hancock, Mike

Liberal Democrats

Kennedy, Charles

Liberal Democrats

Ward, David

Liberal Democrats

Wright, Simon

Liberal Democrats

Edwards, Jonathan

Plaid Cymru

Llwyd, Elfyn

Plaid Cymru

Williams, Hywel

Plaid Cymru

MacNeil, Angus

Scottish National Party (SNP)

McDonnell, Alasdair

Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP)

Ritchie, Margaret

Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP)

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